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Is it necessary?
3:09 PM
Can I do it without an image?
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 5/23/2023 3:10 PM
You could, I'm just offering that as a solution if you're struggling to imagine them.
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Visualization isn’t required to make a tulpa, but it can help. If you have no issue visualizing places you shouldn’t have an issue visualizing people
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That's right
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
You could, I'm just offering that as a solution if you're struggling to imagine them.
I see
3:12 PM
What else can I do?
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With visualization or just in general
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I've tried interacting and talking to my tulpa like a year back, I got no responses
3:13 PM
And it always feels boring
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Rusty
With visualization or just in general
general
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It’s gonna be kinda boring for awhile until they start responding
3:14 PM
Passive forcing with a non verbal tulpa is far more tolerable than active forcing. Active forcing with a tulpa that doesn’t do anything yet is incredibly boring
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what about passive forcing?
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Passive forcing is talking to a tulpa while doing other things
3:15 PM
So while you are going on a walk or cleaning your room
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Ahhh I see
3:16 PM
Sometimes it diverts my attention and I got distracted in either doing something or talking
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Basically you go through your regular thoughts in your day to day life but you direct it at the tulpa.
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Rusty
Basically you go through your regular thoughts in your day to day life but you direct it at the tulpa.
Ahhhhhh
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Imagine your a vlogger and you are narrating what you are doing today for a video lol
3:16 PM
That’s what I did
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I see
3:17 PM
Thats actually a good one
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Rusty
Basically you go through your regular thoughts in your day to day life but you direct it at the tulpa.
Honestly, I don't go through my thoughts a lot of the times, it's just blank and empty
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Rusty
Imagine your a vlogger and you are narrating what you are doing today for a video lol
Drake (DustyAngel47) 5/23/2023 3:17 PM
and eventually you'll get them to like, subscribe, and comment on the video
3:17 PM
except instead of a video its your thoughts
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Another important thing
3:18 PM
How are you expecting your tulpa to communicate with you? People usually have a way too high expectation that leads to them accidentally ignoring their tulpa
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Through responding or talking to me back
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There are many ways to respond that aren’t clear words
3:21 PM
Also a tulpa won’t sound ‘alien’ to you, they often have the same voice as you and a different voice develops later
3:21 PM
Tulpas often speak with ‘raw thought’ or some people call it ‘tulpish’ (which sounds stupid).
3:22 PM
Raw thought is the concept of a sentence, it’s not defined words, but you still can understand what it meant. You also can speak in raw thought in your mind, it’s just a function in the brain
3:23 PM
It’s very common for a tulpa to exclusively use raw thought for awhile before they become ‘truly’ vocal.
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Rusty
Also a tulpa won’t sound ‘alien’ to you, they often have the same voice as you and a different voice develops later
Ahh that’s right
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Rusty
Raw thought is the concept of a sentence, it’s not defined words, but you still can understand what it meant. You also can speak in raw thought in your mind, it’s just a function in the brain
I don’t get it
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Do you have dreams often?
3:25 PM
Sometimes in dreams you just know things, like the dream didn’t tell you anything but you just understand that to be true.
3:25 PM
Raw thought isn’t a dream thing, but I feel like it feels similar to that
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It just happens to be true?
3:29 PM
I’m sorry but I still don’t understand
3:29 PM
So
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Omg
3:29 PM
I’m confused
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Someone help me, most people know what raw thought is and I don’t have to go this deep into it ;w;
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Hmmm did you ever feel like you wanted to express something but didn't feel like you find the right word or cannot translate your thoughts in words?
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Oh yes
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Brain always work in raw thoughts and with language we usually translate it in words.
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Raw thought is thoughts without words. If you pay attention, you may notice you have a raw thought just before you put words to it in your head (if you think in words)
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I hope it helps understanding the concept
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Ahhhhhh I see
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I often notice that whatever thought I am about to say comes into the mind in the form of raw thought before it’s translated into words
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So your tulpa might respond without words, in raw thought
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Tulpas often don’t have that translation and it stays in raw thought
3:34 PM
At least in the beginning
3:34 PM
Raw thought is just easier
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For us, we all think in words most of the time
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People in my system still very often use just that and they’ve been around for like 6 years
3:34 PM
It’s just how our system works
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I mostly use raw thoughts because we don't have mindvoices ^^°
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I think it’s because we pick up on raw thought so quickly that there is no point in waiting for it to become a proper sentence, it just wastes time
3:36 PM
I tried to break out of that before but everyone just got irritated having to go through with the full sentence when we all knew what was said already. It just felt like everything had to go on pause while waiting for someone to slowly sputter out something that we already understood just fine (edited)
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We like talking
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We are just impatient and used to talking over each other
3:39 PM
It’s just like, yeah I get it already we don’t need to go through every single word you intended to say
3:40 PM
At least when it comes to me and Error speaking, Ink does that far less, which is actually not a great thing since it just leads to him getting talked over constantly
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How do you guys create a voice for your tulpa? I find it the hardest part, because you can't just make it the same as a preexisting one but also you can't make a reference for it so you can remember it.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 5/24/2023 8:10 PM
says who?
8:11 PM
I don’t see why you can’t find a reference
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But you can't make a sample of it in real life, so you might forget it. I actually thought about using a voice modulation software to create a voice, but that seems kinda hard.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 5/24/2023 8:13 PM
you could look up voice things until you find one y’all like? We actually didn’t focus on voice stuff at all. Kira originally sounded like me, and her voice just diverged a little over time.
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Idk maybe it's only me that has trouble with this, but her voice changes pretty often. Like I can't stick with one voice for her.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 5/24/2023 8:15 PM
is it a problem?
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Yeah, because I feel like it's a hindrance to her development. Like I need to assign her a distinct voice so she will have a voice in my mind. Idk, maybe it's just me lol.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 5/24/2023 8:18 PM
maybe let her talk out loud a bit and let her find a voice, and then use that voice when you're not talking out loud
8:18 PM
that's kinda what we ended up doing
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 5/24/2023 8:18 PM
try reinforcing that whatever voice you’re trying to give her is her voice Maybe every time it changes, reimagine her words in the correct voice?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 5/24/2023 8:19 PM
we have moments where her voice changes but it doesnt matter much since i already know the "vibe" associated with her thoughts etc
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8:20 PM
but we try to stick with it anyway
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
we have moments where her voice changes but it doesnt matter much since i already know the "vibe" associated with her thoughts etc
Hmm, that's not a bad idea actually. Maybe I should focus on a vibe instead of voice. I mean she does have some unique mannerisms when speaking.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 5/24/2023 8:21 PM
if you're starting out its not a bad idea
8:25 PM
got an answer and left 😔
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 5/24/2023 8:50 PM
got spooked by your wisdom
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Just a question out of curiosity... What will happen to the tulpa when the host sleeps?
6:20 AM
(By sleep I meant sleep at night)
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 5/25/2023 6:31 AM
They sleep too
6:32 AM
You share a brain. An unconscious brain is an unconscious brain no matter how many people are in it.
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I see... Thanks
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LowkeyGod
Yeah, because I feel like it's a hindrance to her development. Like I need to assign her a distinct voice so she will have a voice in my mind. Idk, maybe it's just me lol.
Try Elevenlabs AI and train a custom AI model on a voice you think fits her. Then let that voice read out an entire novel so you can memorize every nouance of it (edited)
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Kira 🐉 BOT 5/28/2023 2:10 AM
so, How do I do touch imposition stuff? Since they were discussing visual imposition in the other channel-
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Lucilyn: oh sorry, answered here, though idk if my answer is helpful or not lol (edited)
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
You share a brain. An unconscious brain is an unconscious brain no matter how many people are in it.
nah somehow previous hosteds can be awake while I slept not even kidding it was genuinely creepy plus brain is active at night so- eh ig it makes sense
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 5/28/2023 3:05 AM
the brain is active in a very different way at the time…
3:06 AM
but again after all it can't truly shut down
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 5/28/2023 3:07 AM
I'm speaking from a purely psychological perspective.
3:07 AM
If your brain is asleep, it's asleep.
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Khaos
nah somehow previous hosteds can be awake while I slept not even kidding it was genuinely creepy plus brain is active at night so- eh ig it makes sense
Like I woke up to them doing stuff while my unconscious body slept like their th-
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